tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post7927646900145061975..comments2024-03-27T22:57:00.742+00:00Comments on Hyperlipid: When is a high fat diet not a high fat diet?Peterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14527788116058656094noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-53820529533987547622008-06-22T05:19:00.000+00:002008-06-22T05:19:00.000+00:00Hi mtflight,Cordian cites an interesting study. Al...Hi mtflight,<BR/><BR/>Cordian cites an interesting study. All you have to do is cross out the word "fat" from the unreferenced claim, substitute "sucrose" and you have another statement supporting Yudkin's hypothesis that sucrose is the primary cause of heart disease... Probably through effects, amongst others, on the glycocalyx.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure Cordain is in any camp other than the Cordain camp. I think he is very good at writing successful grant applications and his science is lousy.<BR/><BR/>His work essentially takes out sugar, grains and dairy. Mostly this is good. The pro fruit and PUFA, anti sat and cholesterol, are what I can't see the logic to. I've just had about two weeks of eating strawberries, maybe another week or two to go. Where would a North American native find kiwi fruits in March? Hee hee, don't say Walmart!<BR/><BR/>PeterPeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14527788116058656094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-53397733143677511302008-06-20T21:30:00.000+00:002008-06-20T21:30:00.000+00:00Furthermore, there is no reference here: "It is kn...Furthermore, there is no reference here: "It is known that high-fat diets (which increase the rate of oxidized LDL formation)"<BR/><BR/>Which fats? polyunsaturated ones? transfats? small dense LDL is more readily oxidized and is usually correlated with high carb, lower fat diets.mtflighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15904999557050546982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-63997877203498523022008-06-20T20:22:00.000+00:002008-06-20T20:22:00.000+00:00From the Paleo Diet Newsletter Vol 4, No.2 page 2 ...From the Paleo Diet Newsletter Vol 4, No.2 page 2 "Lectins, Inflammation and Atherosclerosis" Dr. Cordain mentions:<BR/> "It is known that high-fat diets (which increase the rate of oxidized LDL formation) cause the glycocalyx size and mass to be reduced 18, as do inflammatory cytokines19."<BR/><BR/><BR/>I looked up the reference, and the so-called "high-fat diet" contains as follows:<BR/><BR/>15% cacao butter, <BR/>0.5% cholate, <BR/>1% cholesterol, <BR/>40.5% sucrose, <BR/>10% corn starch, <BR/>1% corn oil, and <BR/>4.7% cellulose <BR/>(Diet-N; Hope Farms)<BR/><BR/>(what is the remaining 27%?), right off the bat the 40.5% sucrose and 10% corn starch is a joke, and no wonder it induced "systemic high cholesterol and triglyceride levels"... it raised insulin levels stimulating increased HMG-CoA Reductase, and triglyceride production (probably lowered HDL too).<BR/><BR/>Cordain is anti-saturated fat, so this does not surprise me, but I thought he was with the low-carb camp.<BR/><BR/>http://ajpheart.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/290/2/H915<BR/>"Atherogenic region and diet diminish glycocalyx dimension and increase intima-to-media ratios at murine carotid artery bifurcation"mtflighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15904999557050546982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-65257278987113397352008-05-21T03:00:00.000+00:002008-05-21T03:00:00.000+00:00"Still looks like chronic carbohydrate poisoning t..."Still looks like chronic carbohydrate poisoning to me."<BR/><BR/>I believe that casein poisoning and PUFA poisoning are also a factor in these studies. The results would be different, IMO, if animals were fed potatoes, fresh raw honey, cheeses, butter, fresh meat, fresh eggs, and so forth. Of course, nobody's going to spring for a study like that, so we get processed "Western" diets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com