tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post958910309806766609..comments2024-03-29T06:45:45.894+00:00Comments on Hyperlipid: Helicobacter and glucosePeterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14527788116058656094noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-74570937731750642282011-08-14T03:19:57.883+00:002011-08-14T03:19:57.883+00:00Hi Jack,
I think Helicobacter is a normal human ...Hi Jack, <br /><br />I think Helicobacter is a normal human commensal and whatever antimicrobial effects come from components of the honey they are hitting other bugs. Bugs matter a great deal, I doubt we know exactly what we are doing when we alter the microbiome...<br /><br />PeterPeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14527788116058656094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-14904496799352827402011-08-05T20:41:07.819+00:002011-08-05T20:41:07.819+00:00Hi Peter,
What are your thoughts on H Pylori and ...Hi Peter,<br /><br />What are your thoughts on H Pylori and Active Manuka Honey? 1 year ago, I switched from SAD to LC and developed heartburn and unsettling feelings in my chest. Been checked out by a Doc extensively (a very discouraging rigmarole). After months of battling it, I finaly tried Active Manuka Honey 15+. It seems to help within days. I stopped taking it months ago, and sometimes my heartburn is back. I am well learned from the likes of Stephan Guyenet, Chis Masterjohn, Chris Kresser, Kurt Harris, Mark Sission etc etc. So I eat well. Anyway, do you think the Active Manuka Honey is a worthwhile way to combat H Pylori? Here's a link for some interesting info on it.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.activemanukahoneyusa.com/" rel="nofollow">AMH</a><br /><br />Thanks,<br />Jack KronkJackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03925820413280991430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-87825584972358791022011-06-06T19:59:17.496+00:002011-06-06T19:59:17.496+00:00Hi rherman,
I tend to think plants hate us. Some ...Hi rherman,<br /><br />I tend to think plants hate us. Some of us are herbivores, at least partially. Asking a plant to help us out seems strange when we could just put the sugar in the bin...<br /><br />PeterPeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14527788116058656094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-54535352485002960442011-06-06T04:33:18.194+00:002011-06-06T04:33:18.194+00:00With your emphasis on glucose control, I'd be ...With your emphasis on glucose control, I'd be interested in your thoughts on the Indian herb gymnema and whether you think these types of externals are effective at glucose moderation.rhermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10835005466835928586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-72203824934880475772009-09-02T20:04:03.184+00:002009-09-02T20:04:03.184+00:00Hi Tiger Lily, yes, my assumption is that glucose ...Hi Tiger Lily, yes, my assumption is that glucose feeds Helicobacter to allow it to produce ulcers. LC eating is the most effective way of sorting out acid reflux for most people, though gluten and sometimes casein avoidance is also needed by a few...<br /><br />PeterPeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14527788116058656094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-72713042859988770642009-08-31T01:46:36.791+00:002009-08-31T01:46:36.791+00:00i take it that the H.pylori commented on is the sa...i take it that the H.pylori commented on is the same H.pylori that causes stomach ulcers as well??<br /><br />i happen to have my medical records leading up to my dx with diabetes, when i started treatment for diabetes (type 1, with insulin, most likely LADA from the reports in my file before the dx criteria for diabetes was tightened down)<br /><br />as SOON as i started on insulin, ALL acid reflux, ulcer pain, and general 'stomach problems' abated<br /><br />completely<br /><br />anecdotal information of one person, but years ago i put together lowering my bg levels with NO MORE STOMACH problemsUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03574830421446969138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-81960594465316697042008-04-26T08:11:00.000+00:002008-04-26T08:11:00.000+00:00Hi Bruce,I've googled assorted combinations of sea...Hi Bruce,<BR/><BR/>I've googled assorted combinations of search terms to find the particular study on rejection you mention, but the volume of hits on Ray Peat's writing is too high to pick it out. It's interesting to know my organs might be more acceptable on a transplant basis.<BR/><BR/>PeterPeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14527788116058656094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-61106913397465422242008-04-26T05:15:00.000+00:002008-04-26T05:15:00.000+00:00Check out Ray Peat's articles about fats, oils, li...Check out Ray Peat's articles about fats, oils, lipids, Vitamin E, and things like that. Didn't Stefansson write that the Eskimos had very low immunity when exposed to infectious disease? Perhaps one of the reasons they ate decayed meats was to build their resistance to pathogens. I am convinced that PUFAs in general are immune-suppressive. They are given to transplant patients, to prevent rejection. It's interesting to note one study Peat cites that an organ from animals eating low-PUFA diets isn't rejected even when recipients are not immune-suppressed. So, low PUFA intake not only makes animals more resistant to disease, it stops their tissues from being rejected, when transplanted. This has broad implications for allergies and all kinds of things like that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-37843179368018362842008-04-02T19:00:00.000+00:002008-04-02T19:00:00.000+00:00Bruce K -- you're totally right -- I oversimplify ...Bruce K -- you're totally right -- I oversimplify often. I actually do believe and prescribe the glycemic index and all that jazz.<BR/><BR/>I actually have a question for you -- you posted once (I forgot where -- I seem to follow you!) about fish oil or excessive something lowering the immune system. Did you mean the oils that DHA+EPA come packed in fish oil capsules? Or did you have some studies that indicated immune depression with certain 'antioxidant's'? I'm really curious! Thanks in advance!<BR/><BR/>gDr. B Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15451872961651116061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-63105474309747676402008-04-02T18:55:00.000+00:002008-04-02T18:55:00.000+00:00"(refined sugar=all carbs to me)"Not to me. I thin..."(refined sugar=all carbs to me)"<BR/><BR/>Not to me. I think we should take a study at face value. If they used a particular food, we should base our conclusions on that food only. Find other valid studies, if you want to talk in generalities. To equate all carbs with refined sugar is kind of like saying "margarine = butter" or "corn oil = macadamia oil." It just doesn't wash and is totally biased.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-71963016511058256302008-04-01T21:20:00.000+00:002008-04-01T21:20:00.000+00:00H.pylori is protective (by PREVENTING GERD) in peo...H.pylori is protective (by PREVENTING GERD) in people with NUD. Sorry, error... got my NUDs and NERDs mixed up ;)<BR/><BR/>NUD is non-ulcer dypepsia -- when H.pylori (if it happens to be there) gets eradicated, then those people end of with BOTH new-onset GERD A-N-D dypepsia!<BR/><BR/>thanks for the book link!<BR/>Peter, thanks for the new entry!!Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654644799724316282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-18524800180683300542008-04-01T19:27:00.000+00:002008-04-01T19:27:00.000+00:00I'd buy bacterial overgrowth as a cause, in genera...I'd buy bacterial overgrowth as a cause, in general bacteria love glucose. Whichever direction they spin their tricarboxylic acid cycle. Just H. pylori is special as doesn't need you on omeprazole to be happy in your stomach. <BR/><BR/>PeterPeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14527788116058656094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-5633856801807618842008-04-01T19:05:00.000+00:002008-04-01T19:05:00.000+00:00Not sure if this advances the discussion, but brow...Not sure if this advances the discussion, but browsing Mike Eades' blog I noticed a post here: <A HREF="http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/archives/2005/11/Heartburn_Cured.html" REL="nofollow">Heartburn Cured</A> that reviews and links to a book that supposedly tells the whole story..^https://www.blogger.com/profile/14209117357558394101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-89089105256749796802008-04-01T17:12:00.000+00:002008-04-01T17:12:00.000+00:00Also, along the lines of the link you gave for the...Also, along the lines of the link you gave for the evolution of man and H.pylori, there is evidence that H.pylori is in fact 'protective' in pts with NERD (non-erosive reflux disease). NERD appears to have neuropsych origins (like IBS, anxiety). I think it's all fish oil, vit D and vit A deficiency...<BR/><BR/>I had no idea that lard had SOOOO MUCH vitamin D. that makes sense!! Chinese people eat a LOT of lard...Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654644799724316282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-65994618975351217812008-04-01T17:09:00.000+00:002008-04-01T17:09:00.000+00:00Less fascinating, but a prospective trial showed s...Less fascinating, but a prospective trial showed symptom improvement of GERD with a VERY low carb diet. It makes me laugh!<BR/><BR/>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16871438Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654644799724316282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-2329105535072314052008-04-01T17:07:00.000+00:002008-04-01T17:07:00.000+00:00It's not gastric ulcer, the article links carbs to...It's not gastric ulcer, the article links carbs to esophageal cancer (which is more deadly)...<BR/><BR/>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17986316Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654644799724316282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-68592554571645280602008-04-01T15:36:00.000+00:002008-04-01T15:36:00.000+00:00Thanks for the recommendation, Peter. Interestin...Thanks for the recommendation, Peter. Interestingly, the book costs just about the same on Amazon's US website - I was sort of expecting it to cost more, because textbooks are outrageously priced in the US. Please don't tell my employer I said that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-72948812345858914602008-04-01T01:22:00.000+00:002008-04-01T01:22:00.000+00:00'dog-eared'... !!I always feel bad asking Peter to...'dog-eared'... !!<BR/><BR/>I always feel bad asking Peter too many questions.. I try to ask the most relevant... but turns out the irrelevant get good clarification too!!<BR/><BR/>I can't find an article... but i'll locate it soon. Peter -- I think you're absolutely right about the carb connection with cancer and of course specifically gastric cancer.<BR/>here's two that really emphasize it and there actually is a good epidemiological connection with the introduction of fructose into the American (and I'd assume British diet) and gastric cancer/H.pylori (but I can't find it).<BR/>(refined sugar=all carbs to me)<BR/>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2170250?dopt=Abstract<BR/><BR/>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15033662<BR/><BR/>man, are you hitting it all on the nail... after all that Power, Sex, Suicide! *ha haaa*Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654644799724316282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-59283856871543279312008-03-31T21:34:00.000+00:002008-03-31T21:34:00.000+00:00"Every time I read an article on your blog like to..."Every time I read an article on your blog like today's, I wish I knew more of the basics."<BR/><BR/>Phew, so it's not just me. I have my hubby as a biochemistry reference, but he's getting a bit dog-eared with all my questions.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17033443643442246531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-24949528229361124482008-03-31T21:14:00.000+00:002008-03-31T21:14:00.000+00:00"My one was actually written by Sarah Benyon"My st..."My one was actually written by Sarah Benyon"<BR/><BR/>My study of low-carb has shattered so many illusions. For instance, I always thought that books were written by one person and then <I>copied</I> thousands of times. But I can testify to Peter's observation that this isn't so, as I've read two books called <I>The Great Cholesterol Con</I>, one by Malcolm Kendrick and one by Anthony Colpo. <BR/><BR/>The lesson to take away from this is that you can't just grab any old copy of a book at the bookshop.<BR/><BR/>Actually, this may also explain why reviews are so startlingly divergent on any given title..^https://www.blogger.com/profile/14209117357558394101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-36477907568808721292008-03-31T20:57:00.000+00:002008-03-31T20:57:00.000+00:00Hi Migraineur,I found this one usefulIt seems quit...Hi Migraineur,<BR/><BR/>I found <A HREF="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crash-Course-Metabolism-Nutrition-Course-UK/dp/072343431X" REL="nofollow">this one</A> useful<BR/><BR/>It seems quite expensive at £20ish for a paperback but that's medical texts for you. I've got the 1998 edition which has the added advantage of featuring a motorcycle rather than a car. You might find it less expensively on a second hand search. My one was actually written by Sarah Benyon.<BR/><BR/>PeterPeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14527788116058656094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-34517151713246384932008-03-31T20:46:00.000+00:002008-03-31T20:46:00.000+00:00Hi Paul,Protein beyond our needs is primarily conv...Hi Paul,<BR/><BR/>Protein beyond our needs is primarily converted to glucose, slowly, over several hours, but it's still glucose (and some ketones). It's a metabolically complex process, why bother seems to be the answer...<BR/><BR/>PeterPeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14527788116058656094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-2826749750328601082008-03-31T15:39:00.000+00:002008-03-31T15:39:00.000+00:00Peter - for those of us who flatter ourselves that...Peter - for those of us who flatter ourselves that we are relatively intelligent but haven't had any biochem beyond what was taught in high school bio (at a good school with a good textbook) - could you recommend a good general biochem book? I work for a textbook publisher and have been thinking of trying to snag one from work, but haven't been able to lay my hands one one. Every time I read an article on your blog like today's, I wish I knew more of the basics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-21269152954849599052008-03-31T13:38:00.000+00:002008-03-31T13:38:00.000+00:00Peter,I'm picking up bits and pieces about the Opt...Peter,<BR/><BR/>I'm picking up bits and pieces about the Optimal Diet as I read this blog, but still missing some big picture stuff. There seems lots of evidence that excess carbohydrate is unhealthy (like this paper), but OD also puts limits on protein intake - correct? Why is that?<BR/><BR/>Paul.<BR/><BR/>p.s. You might like Good Germs, Bad Germs by Snyder Sachs if you haven't yet come across it.paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319278202196461941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36840063.post-54444269200253541542008-03-31T12:11:00.000+00:002008-03-31T12:11:00.000+00:00Bin readin' too much Power, Sex, Suicide.Ooooh, lo...Bin readin' too much Power, Sex, Suicide.<BR/><BR/>Ooooh, looks like I bought the <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/Power-Sex-Suicide-Mitochondria-Meaning/dp/B000OKON5E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1206965262&sr=1-2" REL="nofollow">last copy</A>! Must be selling like hot cakes...<BR/><BR/>Racy.<BR/><BR/>PeterPeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14527788116058656094noreply@blogger.com