This paper is a gem.
Reducing the Dietary Omega-6:Omega-3 Utilizing α-Linolenic Acid; Not a Sufficient Therapy for Attenuating High-Fat-Diet-Induced Obesity Development Nor Related Detrimental Metabolic and Adipose Tissue Inflammatory Outcomes
What did they do? They fed rats chow or they fed them on one of four other diets enriched in PUFA. The extra PUFA were based around various mixtures of linoleic acid with alpha-linolenic acid, some were mostly corn oil, some were slanted towards varnish (flax/linseed oil). Total 18-C PUFA made up 9.4% of calories, ie was obesogenic, and this was identical for all of the high fat diets. Overall macros were identical in all of the high fat diets too. There was no sucrose. The rats were fed ad lib.
Here is the link to Table 1 which lists the compositions, it's too big for putting it up as a jpeg. Just look at how utterly fair the composition of the high fat diets were. Even if the absolute amount of linoleic acid in the lard is not accurate, there will be a consistent error across the diets and the results stay plausible. My only complaint is that there was no group where the omega-3 lipids predominated in the diet PUFA, a 50:50 mix was the maximum. Whereas the maximum omega-6 fed group got essentially all of their PUFA from omega-6 PUFA.
The second excellent feature is that the rats were neither semi-starved nor forcibly overfed. Rats are not people. They cannot be verbally asked to overeat to maintain a stable bodyweight nor to calorie restrict to lose weight. They will simply eat until they are no longer feeling hungry. If that happens while they are svelte or not until they are morbidly obese, the rats don't care.
What happened?
Almost nothing. The chow fed rats, with around 3.5% of calories as PUFA, stayed at a reasonable weight. The obesogenic high fat diets (ie nearly 10% of total calories as PUFA) each caused almost exactly the same progression of obesity:
Why almost?
Can you see that the open squares group gain weight slightly more slowly than the other PUFA diet groups? This shows between week six and week 17. The two hashtags mark out a couple of time points where this achieved statistical significance. This slightly less obese group of rats is the group which ate the least alpha-linolenic acid, the most linoleic acid. This suggests that omega-6 PUFA are less fattening than omega-3 PUFA. I like that. Protons likes that.
The effect was fairly small and only shows as an early facilitation of weight gain. By the end of the study the rats and their adipocytes were all about as fat as they were going to get on 9.4% of calories from any family of PUFA.
You can easily hide this effect by under feeding (pair feeding to the same calories as a chow fed group or arbitrarily reducing overall caloric availability) or overfeeding (paid humans or intragastric cannula over-fed rats). If you are an omega-3 lover this can be necessary. But, given a decent study, it shows.
Consuming the 18-C omega-3 rich linseed oil/flax oil/varnish may not make you terribly much fatter than corn oil will eventually make you, but it should get you there quicker. The situation for EPA and DHA is different. Oxidising these will increase the cytoplasmic NADH:NAD+ ratio via peroxisomal oxidation (bad) and give reasonable mitochondrial function from oxidising the residual saturated caprylic acid C-8 (good), which is the normal fate of very long chain fatty acids of any ilk.
Executive summary: Omega-3 18-C fatty acids are more obesogenic than omega-6 18-C fatty acids. The effect is small but real, it might show better if all of the PUFA were alpha-linolenic acid rather than to 50:50 mixture used. It still makes me happy.
Peter
The Protons view (skip this if you're fed up with hearing it over and over again)...
I consider that the mitochondrial oxidation of PUFA will always show as increased peak insulin sensitivity. The cost of that increased insulin sensitivity is fat gain. The fat gain eventually eliminates any benefit from the initial increase in insulin sensitivity. Forced manipulations of the food intake downwards will preserve the intrinsic insulin sensitivity at the cost of chronic hunger. So when high PUFA-fed lab-rats are "pair fed with the chow group" the PUFA rats will look really good, metabolically. The converse, encouragement to overeat, based on avoiding "accidental" weight loss (weight loss is a huge confounder in studies of hepatic lipid accumulation from almost any intervention, PUFA included) by weekly weighing to maintain weight will mask any benefits from saturated fat induced adipocyte insulin resistance. Stacking the deck is crucial to the result you want to get.
Wednesday, February 28, 2018
Alcohol steatosis and NASH
This came to me via George in the comments to an earlier post:
Supplementation of Saturated Long-Chain Fatty Acids Maintains Intestinal Eubiosis and Reduces Ethanol-induced Liver Injury in Mice
Again, it is a pro-saturated fat paper, always nice to read. They did some odd things such as using fully hydrogenated soya oil, mostly stearic and palmitic acids, versus corn oil and their feeding protocol used controlled intragastric feeding, with or without ethanol. Obviously there is no fructose in any of the feeds.
But they generated some lovely micrographs. These next ones are Oil Red O stained. There is essentially no lipid accumulation in either of the control groups:
And here it is in numerical form:
USF diet supplies 35% of calories from corn oil (which is roughly 60% linoleic acid, ie 20% of total calories as PUFA) and there is no lipid accumulation at all without ethanol. PUFA alone to not appear to cause fatty liver. Adding ethanol produces spectacular steatosis (top right).
The SF diet also included 5% of calories as corn oil which, combined with ethanol, does produce some steatosis (bottom right).
The other images of great interest are the 4-hydroxynonenal stains looking at lipid peroxidation, obviously derived from linoleic acid. These use an immunohistochemical stain and so this will be come up as brown, that's what we're looking at on the top right image. Obviously 4-hydroxynonenal is a marker of the process leading to cirrhosis and eventually to hepatocellular carcinoma. Another gift from your cardiologist:
If you'd like it in more numerical form they measured TBARS too:
My feeling is that fructose is going to behave in exactly the same way as alcohol, through a very similar process. If that is correct then saturated fat will protect your liver from peroxidation. I'd not suggest that fructose won't cause problems, it might even generate steatosis and hepatic insulin resistance, just conversion of that steatosis to NASH seems very unlikely without the PUFA.
Peter
Supplementation of Saturated Long-Chain Fatty Acids Maintains Intestinal Eubiosis and Reduces Ethanol-induced Liver Injury in Mice
Again, it is a pro-saturated fat paper, always nice to read. They did some odd things such as using fully hydrogenated soya oil, mostly stearic and palmitic acids, versus corn oil and their feeding protocol used controlled intragastric feeding, with or without ethanol. Obviously there is no fructose in any of the feeds.
But they generated some lovely micrographs. These next ones are Oil Red O stained. There is essentially no lipid accumulation in either of the control groups:
And here it is in numerical form:
USF diet supplies 35% of calories from corn oil (which is roughly 60% linoleic acid, ie 20% of total calories as PUFA) and there is no lipid accumulation at all without ethanol. PUFA alone to not appear to cause fatty liver. Adding ethanol produces spectacular steatosis (top right).
The SF diet also included 5% of calories as corn oil which, combined with ethanol, does produce some steatosis (bottom right).
The other images of great interest are the 4-hydroxynonenal stains looking at lipid peroxidation, obviously derived from linoleic acid. These use an immunohistochemical stain and so this will be come up as brown, that's what we're looking at on the top right image. Obviously 4-hydroxynonenal is a marker of the process leading to cirrhosis and eventually to hepatocellular carcinoma. Another gift from your cardiologist:
If you'd like it in more numerical form they measured TBARS too:
My feeling is that fructose is going to behave in exactly the same way as alcohol, through a very similar process. If that is correct then saturated fat will protect your liver from peroxidation. I'd not suggest that fructose won't cause problems, it might even generate steatosis and hepatic insulin resistance, just conversion of that steatosis to NASH seems very unlikely without the PUFA.
Peter
Fructose and lipolysis
You have to be very, very careful with fructose feeding papers. It is very easy to slant your methods to give strange and conflicting results. Some really weird stuff happens when you give a sugar which fails to trigger insulin secretion and itself rapidly turns in to fat. The combination of low insulin secretion and high fat production can end up looking very much like a genuine high fat diet! There are papers out there where this can be pushed to the point where fructose fed rats are slim, exquisitely insulin sensitive and apparently very health. Increasing starch/glucose alongside the fructose seems, generally, to produce more obesity. PUFA add a whole new dimension. So be careful...
Onwards.
Another confirmationally biasing paper:
Adipose tissue remodeling in rats exhibiting fructose-induced obesity
Here are the diets
Not too bad. Some changes between sucrose and starch but most of the other variables are pretty well held constant. The study ran for eight weeks. Here are the body compositions at the end:
The fructose fed rats carried 18g of extra fat, just over 12g of which were in mesentery and the epididymal fat pads. Visceral fat. The fructose fed subcutaneous adipocytes had an average volume of 25,200μm3 vs 40,950μm3 in the controls. The situation is reversed in the visceral adipocytes, fructose fed are 28,540μm3 vs 19,870μm3 in the controls.
So, are FFAs being released from adipocytes under the influence of fructose, being picked up by the liver, repackaged in VLDLs and stored in visceral adipocytes long term? Well, as far as I can find, no one has done the tracer studies to check this. We do have these measurements in this paper relating to lipids:
Those elevated FFAs along with elevated fasting triglycerides are both suggesting routes in to and out from the liver respectively. I also rather like the elevated lipid peroxidation, this is not happening to palmitate!
So it's all very suggestive that fructose might be working on subcutaneous adipocytes much the way that alcohol does. I suppose it could be acting on all adipocytes, subcutaneous and visceral, just the repackaged FFAs are targeted to visceral adipocytes, hence the overall shift in size differential. Just as neat vodka makes you thin so a very high fructose diet should do the same. Adding in more starch and/or glucose should go more towards the beer belly look.
Of course you could just argue that fructose or ethanol simply generated lipid in the liver which was shipped out destined for visceral adipocytes. Until you look at the alcohol tracer study and realise that it is certainly not that simple for ethanol. I just have to wish that someone had done a similar tracer study on fructose feeding. Can't have everything I guess.
Peter
Onwards.
Another confirmationally biasing paper:
Adipose tissue remodeling in rats exhibiting fructose-induced obesity
Here are the diets
Not too bad. Some changes between sucrose and starch but most of the other variables are pretty well held constant. The study ran for eight weeks. Here are the body compositions at the end:
The fructose fed rats carried 18g of extra fat, just over 12g of which were in mesentery and the epididymal fat pads. Visceral fat. The fructose fed subcutaneous adipocytes had an average volume of 25,200μm3 vs 40,950μm3 in the controls. The situation is reversed in the visceral adipocytes, fructose fed are 28,540μm3 vs 19,870μm3 in the controls.
So, are FFAs being released from adipocytes under the influence of fructose, being picked up by the liver, repackaged in VLDLs and stored in visceral adipocytes long term? Well, as far as I can find, no one has done the tracer studies to check this. We do have these measurements in this paper relating to lipids:
Those elevated FFAs along with elevated fasting triglycerides are both suggesting routes in to and out from the liver respectively. I also rather like the elevated lipid peroxidation, this is not happening to palmitate!
So it's all very suggestive that fructose might be working on subcutaneous adipocytes much the way that alcohol does. I suppose it could be acting on all adipocytes, subcutaneous and visceral, just the repackaged FFAs are targeted to visceral adipocytes, hence the overall shift in size differential. Just as neat vodka makes you thin so a very high fructose diet should do the same. Adding in more starch and/or glucose should go more towards the beer belly look.
Of course you could just argue that fructose or ethanol simply generated lipid in the liver which was shipped out destined for visceral adipocytes. Until you look at the alcohol tracer study and realise that it is certainly not that simple for ethanol. I just have to wish that someone had done a similar tracer study on fructose feeding. Can't have everything I guess.
Peter
Sunday, February 25, 2018
Registered Dietitian Health Educators: how fat do you want to get?
I guess everyone has seen this:
Effect of Low-Fat vs Low-Carbohydrate Diet on 12-Month Weight Loss in Overweight Adults and the Association With Genotype Pattern or Insulin Secretion The DIETFITS Randomized Clinical Trial
How do you sum up the trial (apart from tedious)? These quotes do it up for me:
"The intervention involved 22 instructional sessions held over 12 months in diet-specific groups of approximately 17 participants per class. Sessions were held weekly for 8 weeks, then every 2 weeks for 2 months, then every 3 weeks until the sixth month, and monthly thereafter. Classes were led by 5 registered dietitian health educators who each taught 1 healthy low-fat class and 1 healthy low-carbohydrate class per cohort"
"...an emphasis on high-quality foods and beverages"
"...focus on whole foods that were minimally processed, nutrient dense, and prepared at home whenever possible."
This should be a good intervention.
Except decision making was then handed to the participants:
"Then individuals slowly added fats or carbohydrates back to their diets in increments of 5 to 15 g/d per week until they reached the lowest level of intake they believed could be maintained indefinitely"
End result of this is that 10% of the participants weighed more at the end of 12 months of closely supervised healthy eating by a Registered Dietitian Health Educator than they did at the start. Cracking intervention for these poor folks.
And in both the low fat and the low carb groups just under 5% (LF 4.3%, LC 3.6%) of participants developed metabolic syndrome, who had been relatively healthy before the start of the intervention. How can you manage this with "healthy" food and 22 meetings with a Registered Dietitian Health Educator? I'm impressed. If a Registered Dietitian Health Educator ever comes your way, RUN. Especially if they use the words "healthy" and "diet" in the same sentence.
Bottom line: Low carb diets only work when you limit the amount of carbs you eat. However "healthy" those carbs you add back in might be, depending on the opinion of a Registered Dietitian Health Educator, it's no longer a low carb diet. You'll get fat again.
Of course the same applies to low fat diets, especially if they are sugar restricted at the same time. Ultimately if you follow a low fat diet with as much added fat as you feel comfortable with, you're going to be disappointed with the results too. Adding back sugar will be even more disastrous. Sad but true.
Peter
Addendum: Gardner did essentially the same study in 2007 but made the mistake of publishing the weights alongside the carb intakes at each assessment interval. I wrote all over his graphs here. He didn't repeat the mistake. No one should imagine he's stupid. Or honest.
Effect of Low-Fat vs Low-Carbohydrate Diet on 12-Month Weight Loss in Overweight Adults and the Association With Genotype Pattern or Insulin Secretion The DIETFITS Randomized Clinical Trial
How do you sum up the trial (apart from tedious)? These quotes do it up for me:
"The intervention involved 22 instructional sessions held over 12 months in diet-specific groups of approximately 17 participants per class. Sessions were held weekly for 8 weeks, then every 2 weeks for 2 months, then every 3 weeks until the sixth month, and monthly thereafter. Classes were led by 5 registered dietitian health educators who each taught 1 healthy low-fat class and 1 healthy low-carbohydrate class per cohort"
"...an emphasis on high-quality foods and beverages"
"...focus on whole foods that were minimally processed, nutrient dense, and prepared at home whenever possible."
This should be a good intervention.
Except decision making was then handed to the participants:
"Then individuals slowly added fats or carbohydrates back to their diets in increments of 5 to 15 g/d per week until they reached the lowest level of intake they believed could be maintained indefinitely"
End result of this is that 10% of the participants weighed more at the end of 12 months of closely supervised healthy eating by a Registered Dietitian Health Educator than they did at the start. Cracking intervention for these poor folks.
And in both the low fat and the low carb groups just under 5% (LF 4.3%, LC 3.6%) of participants developed metabolic syndrome, who had been relatively healthy before the start of the intervention. How can you manage this with "healthy" food and 22 meetings with a Registered Dietitian Health Educator? I'm impressed. If a Registered Dietitian Health Educator ever comes your way, RUN. Especially if they use the words "healthy" and "diet" in the same sentence.
Bottom line: Low carb diets only work when you limit the amount of carbs you eat. However "healthy" those carbs you add back in might be, depending on the opinion of a Registered Dietitian Health Educator, it's no longer a low carb diet. You'll get fat again.
Of course the same applies to low fat diets, especially if they are sugar restricted at the same time. Ultimately if you follow a low fat diet with as much added fat as you feel comfortable with, you're going to be disappointed with the results too. Adding back sugar will be even more disastrous. Sad but true.
Peter
Addendum: Gardner did essentially the same study in 2007 but made the mistake of publishing the weights alongside the carb intakes at each assessment interval. I wrote all over his graphs here. He didn't repeat the mistake. No one should imagine he's stupid. Or honest.
Tuesday, February 20, 2018
Alcohol and weight loss
This is a paper I really like. It's about the slimming effect of alcohol:
Chronic alcohol exposure stimulates adipose tissue lipolysis in mice: role of reverse triglyceride transport in the pathogenesis of alcoholic steatosis
This is how you really examine frozen liver samples for steatosis in a real laboratory:
"Neutral lipids in the liver were detected by Oil Red O stain. Liver cryostat sections were cut at 7 μm, fixed with 10% formalin for 5 minutes, and stained with Oil Red O in 2-propynal solution for 10 minutes"
The image on the right (for Ed to enjoy, even if the approach is a little basic compared to what you can do) is from one of the alcoholic mice, lots of lovely lipid accumulation:
And if you want to know about hepatocellular damage, you measure leaked ALT in real plasma from real blood:
"... the plasma ALT level was significantly higher in alcohol-fed mice (68.8 ± 17.0 U/L) than pair-fed mice (28.4 ± 6.7 U/L)".
No suggestion of homogenising liver and measuring ALT in the supernatant!
OK, so these folks seem quite honest and to know what they are doing. That's very nice.
What did they actually do? They deuterated the fatty acids in the adipocytes of live mice, got half of the mice drunk for a few weeks and then measured how much of the deuterated triglycerides turned up in the liver.
Lots did.
They also checked out why the adipocytes released their FFAs under ethanol. The mice developed whole body insulin resistance and they particularly developed adipocyte insulin resistance. If your adipocytes resist insulin, you get thin. Vodka makes you slim, while it grossly fattens your liver and makes you (mildly) insulin resistant.
As they say in the paper:
"In conclusion, the present study demonstrated that reduction of WAT mass and adipocyte size was associated with alcoholic steatosis. Activation of ATGL and HSL due to adipose insulin resistance is likely the major cause in alcohol-induced WAT reduction"
Speculation: Combining alcohol with a carbohydrate load (Beer!) will still make you "sort-of" slim, because any lipid you manage to force in to your adipocytes, using the hyperinsulinaemia needed to achieve normoglycaemia, will be released as soon as insulin starts to fall and you end up with a central beer belly combined with skinny arms and legs peripherally... Back to the paper.
The core slimming effect of ethanol is based on the induction of insulin resistance within adipocytes... This releases FFAs and the FFAs, if not utilised, are stored in liver and visceral adipose tissue.
You really have to wonder how much of the hepatic steatosis of fructose is generated in the same manner as that of alcohol, primarily driven by reverse transport of FFAs from adipocytes to hepatic cells. It would also be interesting to know if PUFA were released from adipocytes alongside the fructose-generated palmitate we talked about in the last post. The adipocytes certainly release multiple PUFA derived FFAs for transport back to the liver under the influence of ethanol.
Peter
BTW, did anyone notice that this group, who appear to be good, didn't measure or report plasma FFAs? I'm guessing FFAs are not markedly elevated in alcoholic reverse lipid flow, so trying to work out what is happening to lipid transport (or oxidation, for that matter) from FFA levels might be somewhat fraught, in any of those studies in which FFA levels are reported in the absence of isotopic tracking... Makes things tricky when you go on to think about fructose studies.
Chronic alcohol exposure stimulates adipose tissue lipolysis in mice: role of reverse triglyceride transport in the pathogenesis of alcoholic steatosis
This is how you really examine frozen liver samples for steatosis in a real laboratory:
"Neutral lipids in the liver were detected by Oil Red O stain. Liver cryostat sections were cut at 7 μm, fixed with 10% formalin for 5 minutes, and stained with Oil Red O in 2-propynal solution for 10 minutes"
The image on the right (for Ed to enjoy, even if the approach is a little basic compared to what you can do) is from one of the alcoholic mice, lots of lovely lipid accumulation:
And if you want to know about hepatocellular damage, you measure leaked ALT in real plasma from real blood:
"... the plasma ALT level was significantly higher in alcohol-fed mice (68.8 ± 17.0 U/L) than pair-fed mice (28.4 ± 6.7 U/L)".
No suggestion of homogenising liver and measuring ALT in the supernatant!
OK, so these folks seem quite honest and to know what they are doing. That's very nice.
What did they actually do? They deuterated the fatty acids in the adipocytes of live mice, got half of the mice drunk for a few weeks and then measured how much of the deuterated triglycerides turned up in the liver.
Lots did.
They also checked out why the adipocytes released their FFAs under ethanol. The mice developed whole body insulin resistance and they particularly developed adipocyte insulin resistance. If your adipocytes resist insulin, you get thin. Vodka makes you slim, while it grossly fattens your liver and makes you (mildly) insulin resistant.
As they say in the paper:
"In conclusion, the present study demonstrated that reduction of WAT mass and adipocyte size was associated with alcoholic steatosis. Activation of ATGL and HSL due to adipose insulin resistance is likely the major cause in alcohol-induced WAT reduction"
Speculation: Combining alcohol with a carbohydrate load (Beer!) will still make you "sort-of" slim, because any lipid you manage to force in to your adipocytes, using the hyperinsulinaemia needed to achieve normoglycaemia, will be released as soon as insulin starts to fall and you end up with a central beer belly combined with skinny arms and legs peripherally... Back to the paper.
The core slimming effect of ethanol is based on the induction of insulin resistance within adipocytes... This releases FFAs and the FFAs, if not utilised, are stored in liver and visceral adipose tissue.
You really have to wonder how much of the hepatic steatosis of fructose is generated in the same manner as that of alcohol, primarily driven by reverse transport of FFAs from adipocytes to hepatic cells. It would also be interesting to know if PUFA were released from adipocytes alongside the fructose-generated palmitate we talked about in the last post. The adipocytes certainly release multiple PUFA derived FFAs for transport back to the liver under the influence of ethanol.
Peter
BTW, did anyone notice that this group, who appear to be good, didn't measure or report plasma FFAs? I'm guessing FFAs are not markedly elevated in alcoholic reverse lipid flow, so trying to work out what is happening to lipid transport (or oxidation, for that matter) from FFA levels might be somewhat fraught, in any of those studies in which FFA levels are reported in the absence of isotopic tracking... Makes things tricky when you go on to think about fructose studies.
Thursday, February 15, 2018
Systemic fructose is important
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TLDR: Be cautious of anyone who tells you fructose metabolism is limited to the liver.
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Fructose uptake by the liver is saturable. Drinking two cans of soda sweetened with high fructose corn syrup produces a peak plasma concentration 17mmol/l. Yes, 17mmol/l. On average.
Direct spectrophotometric determination of serum fructose in pancreatic cancer patients
Unfortunately the methods section makes no sense at all, so we have no idea how much fructose was actually consumed:
"In 3 of these subjects, intravenous access was obtained in an antecubital vein, and additional blood samples were taken at baseline and 15, 30, 45, 60, 90, and 120 minutes after ingestion (93 minutes) of two 75-mL cans of a proprietary soda, for determination of serum glucose and fructose concentration. Each 40-oz can of soda contained 75 g of high-fructose corn syrup, which consisted of 55% fructose and 45% glucose as constituent monosaccharides, equating to 41.25 g fructose and 33.75 g glucose, respectively".
Go figure. Two 40oz cans of soda? Some big cans there, even by USA standards!
Anyway, this is the graph they produced:
This next group seems to have managed to write an interpretable methods section but missed peak fructose levels by only sampling at 60 and 120 minutes.
Consumption of rapeseed honey leads to higher serum fructose levels compared with analogue glucose/fructose solutions
Ingesting 75g of neat fructose, as a solution, gives a blood concentration of 130mg/dl, ie they measured just over 7.0mmol/l in real units, at one hour post ingestion.
So fructose gets past the liver and will be taken up by any cells with GLUT3s on their surface. Whole body.
Like adipocytes.
This is a nice paper covering a lot of bases about how adipocytes deal with the fructose they are flooded with every time you down a couple of cans of soda. Or apple juice or.......
Metabolic fate of fructose in human adipocytes: a targeted 13C tracer fate association study
What do adipocytes do with fructose?
They don't oxidise much of it.
They don't convert much to lactate.
They do convert most of it to palmitate and a little to oleate.
They store the oleate.
They release the palmitate as FFAs.
You can't tell from the study how much this palmitate raises systemic FFAs because the study was being performed on "adipocyte-like" cells in cell culture. But, assuming that in most cases fructose would be co-ingested with glucose, you have here the classical situation of elevated free fatty acids, in combination with elevated glucose, in combination with elevated insulin.
This is my definition of metabolic syndrome. The hyperinsulinaemia will, until you become diabetic, eventually control the hyperglycaemia. It may well suppress the elevated FFAs. The glucose and FFAs will be pushed* in to any cell which will respond to insulin.
*Nothing is actually "pushed". Insulin facilitates diffusion (GLUT4s) and maintains a diffusion gradient by removing glucose to glycogen and FFAs to triglycerides.
The liver will be right in the frontline for accepting these FFAs, which should be in adipocytes, and experiencing sustained high levels of insulin (to control glycaemia) will make the hepatocytes hang on to those fatty acids. This is in addition to any intrahepatic trigycerides from fructose-driven DNL. Overall we end up with massively calorically overloaded liver cells. This is the prerequisite to hepatic steatosis and all that is then needed for the generation of inflammatory changes is a source of omega six PUFA. There is a desperate need for liver to say "no" to any more calories. It does by resisting insulin. Which it does by generating ROS. If those ROS meet linoleic acid, it's welcome to 13-HODE, 4-NHE and any other peroxide you care to dig up. These PUFA derivatives do cause insulin resistance per se (as well as 13-HODE stimulating cancer growth), but to me they are just an amplification system derived from what is already happening at the "front end" of the mitochondria... ROS generation by RET, essential to limit grossly excessive caloric ingress.
Peter
TLDR: Be cautious of anyone who tells you fructose metabolism is limited to the liver.
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Fructose uptake by the liver is saturable. Drinking two cans of soda sweetened with high fructose corn syrup produces a peak plasma concentration 17mmol/l. Yes, 17mmol/l. On average.
Direct spectrophotometric determination of serum fructose in pancreatic cancer patients
Unfortunately the methods section makes no sense at all, so we have no idea how much fructose was actually consumed:
"In 3 of these subjects, intravenous access was obtained in an antecubital vein, and additional blood samples were taken at baseline and 15, 30, 45, 60, 90, and 120 minutes after ingestion (93 minutes) of two 75-mL cans of a proprietary soda, for determination of serum glucose and fructose concentration. Each 40-oz can of soda contained 75 g of high-fructose corn syrup, which consisted of 55% fructose and 45% glucose as constituent monosaccharides, equating to 41.25 g fructose and 33.75 g glucose, respectively".
Go figure. Two 40oz cans of soda? Some big cans there, even by USA standards!
Anyway, this is the graph they produced:
This next group seems to have managed to write an interpretable methods section but missed peak fructose levels by only sampling at 60 and 120 minutes.
Consumption of rapeseed honey leads to higher serum fructose levels compared with analogue glucose/fructose solutions
Ingesting 75g of neat fructose, as a solution, gives a blood concentration of 130mg/dl, ie they measured just over 7.0mmol/l in real units, at one hour post ingestion.
So fructose gets past the liver and will be taken up by any cells with GLUT3s on their surface. Whole body.
Like adipocytes.
This is a nice paper covering a lot of bases about how adipocytes deal with the fructose they are flooded with every time you down a couple of cans of soda. Or apple juice or.......
Metabolic fate of fructose in human adipocytes: a targeted 13C tracer fate association study
What do adipocytes do with fructose?
They don't oxidise much of it.
They don't convert much to lactate.
They do convert most of it to palmitate and a little to oleate.
They store the oleate.
They release the palmitate as FFAs.
You can't tell from the study how much this palmitate raises systemic FFAs because the study was being performed on "adipocyte-like" cells in cell culture. But, assuming that in most cases fructose would be co-ingested with glucose, you have here the classical situation of elevated free fatty acids, in combination with elevated glucose, in combination with elevated insulin.
This is my definition of metabolic syndrome. The hyperinsulinaemia will, until you become diabetic, eventually control the hyperglycaemia. It may well suppress the elevated FFAs. The glucose and FFAs will be pushed* in to any cell which will respond to insulin.
*Nothing is actually "pushed". Insulin facilitates diffusion (GLUT4s) and maintains a diffusion gradient by removing glucose to glycogen and FFAs to triglycerides.
The liver will be right in the frontline for accepting these FFAs, which should be in adipocytes, and experiencing sustained high levels of insulin (to control glycaemia) will make the hepatocytes hang on to those fatty acids. This is in addition to any intrahepatic trigycerides from fructose-driven DNL. Overall we end up with massively calorically overloaded liver cells. This is the prerequisite to hepatic steatosis and all that is then needed for the generation of inflammatory changes is a source of omega six PUFA. There is a desperate need for liver to say "no" to any more calories. It does by resisting insulin. Which it does by generating ROS. If those ROS meet linoleic acid, it's welcome to 13-HODE, 4-NHE and any other peroxide you care to dig up. These PUFA derivatives do cause insulin resistance per se (as well as 13-HODE stimulating cancer growth), but to me they are just an amplification system derived from what is already happening at the "front end" of the mitochondria... ROS generation by RET, essential to limit grossly excessive caloric ingress.
Peter
Wednesday, February 14, 2018
TRAK2 and HDL. Do we care?
George posted the link to this editorial in the comments of a post some considerable time ago (so it seems now). So this is another old post which has been lying around on the hard drive... Anyway the link is:
Making sense of a seemingly odd connection
It gives an overview and extension of the ideas included in a paper in the same edition of the European Heart Journal
TRAK2, a novel regulator of ABCA1 expression, cholesterol efflux and HDL biogenesis
Both papers are steeped, very deeply, in the Lipid Hypothesis. As such, the chances of them doing anything useful for anyone at all are vanishingly small. Because TRAK2 reduces HDL formation and knocking it down increases HDL, the obvious conclusion is:
"TRAK2 may therefore be an important target in the development of anti-atherosclerotic therapies"
Another target to raise HDL... Sigh, here we go again.
You have to understand that, in the 1950s, the Lipid Hypothesis was bollocks. At no point has anything ever been found to alter that situation. As such I find it very hard to worry about ApoB counts, ApoB sizes, oxidised LDL etc etc etc. including low HDL. Manipulating these numbers by sugar avoidance and saturated fat inclusion will do good. Manipulating them with drugs will bomb. We all still giggle over torcetrapib, anacetrapib, any-other-etrapib and their astronomical, yet useless, levels of HDL.
However, there is that one simple intervention which raises HDL in an effective and totally non toxic manner.
That is saturated fat. Monounsaturated fat is neutral and omega six PUFA lowers HDL. The editorial points out, very perceptively, that not only is 27-hydroxycholesterol a key messenger in HDL formation, but that HDL can be viewed as an export mechanism for free radicals.
Saturated fat raises HDL. Saturated fat drives FADH2 facilcitated RET through complex I in the mitochondria. This process is, undoubtedly, beneficial. Is it the RET which drives the HDL formation? Whether the rise in HDL itself is of benefit or whether the benefits accrue solely from the RET, generated by palmitic acid, which facilitated its formation is an interesting area to speculate in.
MUFA are less effective at RET and HDL generation than saturates. PUFA are useless at both RET and (subsequent?) HDL formation.
HDL, as a vehicle for ROS modified sterols, might be good for you per se. Raising HDL without the ROS/oxidised sterols will be useless. Forget TRAK2.
Just my two penneth.
Peter
Making sense of a seemingly odd connection
It gives an overview and extension of the ideas included in a paper in the same edition of the European Heart Journal
TRAK2, a novel regulator of ABCA1 expression, cholesterol efflux and HDL biogenesis
Both papers are steeped, very deeply, in the Lipid Hypothesis. As such, the chances of them doing anything useful for anyone at all are vanishingly small. Because TRAK2 reduces HDL formation and knocking it down increases HDL, the obvious conclusion is:
"TRAK2 may therefore be an important target in the development of anti-atherosclerotic therapies"
Another target to raise HDL... Sigh, here we go again.
You have to understand that, in the 1950s, the Lipid Hypothesis was bollocks. At no point has anything ever been found to alter that situation. As such I find it very hard to worry about ApoB counts, ApoB sizes, oxidised LDL etc etc etc. including low HDL. Manipulating these numbers by sugar avoidance and saturated fat inclusion will do good. Manipulating them with drugs will bomb. We all still giggle over torcetrapib, anacetrapib, any-other-etrapib and their astronomical, yet useless, levels of HDL.
However, there is that one simple intervention which raises HDL in an effective and totally non toxic manner.
That is saturated fat. Monounsaturated fat is neutral and omega six PUFA lowers HDL. The editorial points out, very perceptively, that not only is 27-hydroxycholesterol a key messenger in HDL formation, but that HDL can be viewed as an export mechanism for free radicals.
Saturated fat raises HDL. Saturated fat drives FADH2 facilcitated RET through complex I in the mitochondria. This process is, undoubtedly, beneficial. Is it the RET which drives the HDL formation? Whether the rise in HDL itself is of benefit or whether the benefits accrue solely from the RET, generated by palmitic acid, which facilitated its formation is an interesting area to speculate in.
MUFA are less effective at RET and HDL generation than saturates. PUFA are useless at both RET and (subsequent?) HDL formation.
HDL, as a vehicle for ROS modified sterols, might be good for you per se. Raising HDL without the ROS/oxidised sterols will be useless. Forget TRAK2.
Just my two penneth.
Peter
Collateral damage from saturophobia. People really do get hurt.
I've spent the last few posts talking about the parlous state of research in to NAFLD and the techniques for justifying saturophobia. This current post is one I wrote a few months ago but never got round to putting up. It's still fairly current, so here it is.
The president of the AHA had a heart attack at an AHA scientific conference recently. This is almost, but not quite, funny. After all, no-one got hurt (much), a little money changed hands and the president is still alive and as healthy as any other cardiologist, still able to go on promoting the ideas which led to his brief trip to the cath lab.
Not everyone is so lucky. I recently finished reading the (very depressing) biography of Tina Mokotoff, written by her husband and documenting her descent in to alcoholism and her subsequent death from alcoholic liver disease at the age of 45.
Mrs Mokotoff had an unremitting need for alcohol. It was the primary drug which allowed her to cope with the emotional scars from her childhood abuse injuries. Her husband, a interventional cardiologist, watched with palpable frustration at the failure of the gastroenterologists to manage her cirrhosis and the failure of repeated rehabs to control her need for alcohol.
WARNING: Epidemiology and rodent studies ahead.
There is significant variation in mortality between populations from alcohol related liver disease (ALD) per unit alcohol consumption. It's interesting to speculate as to why this might be and it was a recurrent thought throughout the persistently depressing account of Tina Mokotoff's journey to death. Let's start with epidemiology:
Correlations between deviations from expected cirrhosis mortality and serum uric acid and dietary protein intake
Mortality from cirrhosis in a population can range from 80% less than predicted (ie two cirrhosis deaths per 100,000 when the alcohol intake predicts 10 per 100,000) through to over 80% more deaths than predicted (ie over 18 per 100,000). That's a nine fold difference between lowest and highest risk, at the same alcohol intake. Something is real here.
In this epidemiological study, animal protein intake is associated with a markedly reduced cirrhosis death rate. The animal protein may be protective per se but I tend towards thinking of it as being a marker for saturated fat intake. But then I would.
To support this biased mindset we know that, in rodent models at least, saturated fat is either completely protective against alcoholic liver disease or shows a dose response in its protective effect up to near complete protection at 30% of calories from saturated fat, even when the other 15% of calories in the 45% calories-from-fat-diet are still PUFA. We also know that even mice fed a low carbohydrate diet derive no protection from ALD when the carbohydrate is replaced by PUFA from corn oil. I doubt anyone would argue that PUFA are good for your liver. Hepatologists have known for decades that lipid peroxides are the drivers of cirrhosis and these only come from damaged PUFA.
Through the 1990s, during his wife's descent in to cirrhosis, Dr Mokotoff worked tirelessly in the cath lab placing stents and "curing" people of occlusive coronary artery disease. His life must have been very simple. Here is a blocked artery. Here is a bit of pipework to open it. Let's put this in there and the patient is fixed. Just occasionally he might even have done some good (though far from as often as he might have thought he had done). During this period the cardiological community was deeply under the influence of the "obvious" benefits from a low fat, low saturated fat and low cholesterol diet.
Unless you are going to indulge in some weird Ornisheque low fat diet, eating a saturated fat depleted diet will will undoubtedly involve a significant intake of PUFA. This should never, under any circumstances, be combined with alcohol. Would the Morokoffs have avoided saturated fat? Dr Mokotoff was an interventional cardiologist. Just guess.
Having a cardiologist, the president of the AHA, inflict a minor injury on himself, without getting really hurt, is ironic. Reading an account of a real human being being driven to a very unpleasant death through cirrhosis is not funny. Inflicting a population wide epidemic of assorted PUFA induced diseases is, absolutely, not funny either.
Thank you, AHA.
Peter
The president of the AHA had a heart attack at an AHA scientific conference recently. This is almost, but not quite, funny. After all, no-one got hurt (much), a little money changed hands and the president is still alive and as healthy as any other cardiologist, still able to go on promoting the ideas which led to his brief trip to the cath lab.
Not everyone is so lucky. I recently finished reading the (very depressing) biography of Tina Mokotoff, written by her husband and documenting her descent in to alcoholism and her subsequent death from alcoholic liver disease at the age of 45.
Mrs Mokotoff had an unremitting need for alcohol. It was the primary drug which allowed her to cope with the emotional scars from her childhood abuse injuries. Her husband, a interventional cardiologist, watched with palpable frustration at the failure of the gastroenterologists to manage her cirrhosis and the failure of repeated rehabs to control her need for alcohol.
WARNING: Epidemiology and rodent studies ahead.
There is significant variation in mortality between populations from alcohol related liver disease (ALD) per unit alcohol consumption. It's interesting to speculate as to why this might be and it was a recurrent thought throughout the persistently depressing account of Tina Mokotoff's journey to death. Let's start with epidemiology:
Correlations between deviations from expected cirrhosis mortality and serum uric acid and dietary protein intake
Mortality from cirrhosis in a population can range from 80% less than predicted (ie two cirrhosis deaths per 100,000 when the alcohol intake predicts 10 per 100,000) through to over 80% more deaths than predicted (ie over 18 per 100,000). That's a nine fold difference between lowest and highest risk, at the same alcohol intake. Something is real here.
In this epidemiological study, animal protein intake is associated with a markedly reduced cirrhosis death rate. The animal protein may be protective per se but I tend towards thinking of it as being a marker for saturated fat intake. But then I would.
To support this biased mindset we know that, in rodent models at least, saturated fat is either completely protective against alcoholic liver disease or shows a dose response in its protective effect up to near complete protection at 30% of calories from saturated fat, even when the other 15% of calories in the 45% calories-from-fat-diet are still PUFA. We also know that even mice fed a low carbohydrate diet derive no protection from ALD when the carbohydrate is replaced by PUFA from corn oil. I doubt anyone would argue that PUFA are good for your liver. Hepatologists have known for decades that lipid peroxides are the drivers of cirrhosis and these only come from damaged PUFA.
Through the 1990s, during his wife's descent in to cirrhosis, Dr Mokotoff worked tirelessly in the cath lab placing stents and "curing" people of occlusive coronary artery disease. His life must have been very simple. Here is a blocked artery. Here is a bit of pipework to open it. Let's put this in there and the patient is fixed. Just occasionally he might even have done some good (though far from as often as he might have thought he had done). During this period the cardiological community was deeply under the influence of the "obvious" benefits from a low fat, low saturated fat and low cholesterol diet.
Unless you are going to indulge in some weird Ornisheque low fat diet, eating a saturated fat depleted diet will will undoubtedly involve a significant intake of PUFA. This should never, under any circumstances, be combined with alcohol. Would the Morokoffs have avoided saturated fat? Dr Mokotoff was an interventional cardiologist. Just guess.
Having a cardiologist, the president of the AHA, inflict a minor injury on himself, without getting really hurt, is ironic. Reading an account of a real human being being driven to a very unpleasant death through cirrhosis is not funny. Inflicting a population wide epidemic of assorted PUFA induced diseases is, absolutely, not funny either.
Thank you, AHA.
Peter
Saturated fat and fatty liver. Payday in Colorado.
Dophamn supplied the link to another interesting study:
The role of visceral and subcutaneous adipose tissue fatty acid composition in liver pathophysiology associated with NAFLD
Here is the money shot that supports the religion of saturated fat as the devil incarnate:
"Overall, these data suggest that diets enriched in saturated fatty acids are associated with liver inflammation, ER stress and injury".
Meanwhile, in the study detail:
I would agree that the stearic acid rats stayed comparable in weight to others despite eating more calories than either Crapinabag or PUFA fed rats, as in Table 1. There is NO evidence that they developed inflammatory changes in their liver! They had a statistically significant increase in messenger RNA expression for seven genes associated with inflammatory liver disease. The question is whether these mRNA changes actually result in detectable inflammatory changes in the liver, or are they markers of the normal response to reverse electron transport though complex I derived superoxide which might also trigger life extending increases in SOD and/or catalase gene expression? ROS generation is essential to mitochondrial biogenesis. It MUST affect signalling molecules. At what level does physiological signalling degenerate in to pathology? Easy to find this out, just look at the liver histology.
What we need to know is whether there is histological evidence of NASH development. After all, we know from the methods that they took terminal samples of liver and snap froze them in liquid nitrogen. Either sticking some in formalin at the same time or getting histology done on the frozen samples (not ideal from the histologist point of view but quite possible) would allow them to correlate their mRNAs with actual damage in the liver. They didn’t do this.
So why did they freeze liver samples at all? As they say in the methods:
“Liver tissue was homogenized in buffer (100mM Tris, pH 7.8) and alanine aminotransferase (ALT) concentration was determined from supernatant via manufacture instructions (Cayman Chemical, Ann Arbor, MI)”.
[Not my typo in the copy/paste. I can do enough of my own when I feel that way!!!]
In the results section in Figure 4 this is converted to:
“Plasma alanine aminotransferase concentration was higher in SAT compared with CON and PUFA”.
[My shouting emphasis on "supernatant" and "plasma"]
Plasma???? No. The methods clearly state that it was liver homogenate supernatant! Plasma ALT is an absolutely routine, standard, everyday marker of liver damage. It is a surrogate for hepatocellular damage, i.e. a normal component of liver cytoplasm which has leaked in to plasma in response to liver injury. It’s measured every day in any patient undergoing any sort of health/illness monitoring blood work. It is a COMPLETELY normal cytoplasm component while it is contained within the liver hepatocytes. It is LEAKAGE to the blood stream that we are interested in as a surrogate for hepatic damage. The rats all had terminal blood samples taken. The group could have measured ALT for a few pence in real plasma from this blood. They didn’t. They homogenised liver and measured ALT in the supernatant. They described this as “plasma”. All we can say from Fig 4 is that the liver of stearic acid fed rats has more of ALT within its hepatocytes. ALT is a normal enzyme used for interconverting certain components of the TCA/amino acid metabolism. Who knows why it is increased under stearate feeding, but it's not a marker of hepatocellular damage unless it is being released in to the blood stream... I think we can assume plasma ALT was completely normal. I'd be willing to bet it was measured in a pilot study and failed to pass the pay-dirt test.
The related studies cited in this paper are equally interesting and say nothing about much other than the ingenuity of the researchers. As always, my fascination is about the mindset involved.
Who decided to homogenise liver to get “plasma” ALT? Who decided to bin the histology friendly liver samples?
Why?
Peter
The role of visceral and subcutaneous adipose tissue fatty acid composition in liver pathophysiology associated with NAFLD
Here is the money shot that supports the religion of saturated fat as the devil incarnate:
"Overall, these data suggest that diets enriched in saturated fatty acids are associated with liver inflammation, ER stress and injury".
Meanwhile, in the study detail:
I would agree that the stearic acid rats stayed comparable in weight to others despite eating more calories than either Crapinabag or PUFA fed rats, as in Table 1. There is NO evidence that they developed inflammatory changes in their liver! They had a statistically significant increase in messenger RNA expression for seven genes associated with inflammatory liver disease. The question is whether these mRNA changes actually result in detectable inflammatory changes in the liver, or are they markers of the normal response to reverse electron transport though complex I derived superoxide which might also trigger life extending increases in SOD and/or catalase gene expression? ROS generation is essential to mitochondrial biogenesis. It MUST affect signalling molecules. At what level does physiological signalling degenerate in to pathology? Easy to find this out, just look at the liver histology.
What we need to know is whether there is histological evidence of NASH development. After all, we know from the methods that they took terminal samples of liver and snap froze them in liquid nitrogen. Either sticking some in formalin at the same time or getting histology done on the frozen samples (not ideal from the histologist point of view but quite possible) would allow them to correlate their mRNAs with actual damage in the liver. They didn’t do this.
So why did they freeze liver samples at all? As they say in the methods:
“Liver tissue was homogenized in buffer (100mM Tris, pH 7.8) and alanine aminotransferase (ALT) concentration was determined from supernatant via manufacture instructions (Cayman Chemical, Ann Arbor, MI)”.
[Not my typo in the copy/paste. I can do enough of my own when I feel that way!!!]
In the results section in Figure 4 this is converted to:
“Plasma alanine aminotransferase concentration was higher in SAT compared with CON and PUFA”.
[My shouting emphasis on "supernatant" and "plasma"]
Plasma???? No. The methods clearly state that it was liver homogenate supernatant! Plasma ALT is an absolutely routine, standard, everyday marker of liver damage. It is a surrogate for hepatocellular damage, i.e. a normal component of liver cytoplasm which has leaked in to plasma in response to liver injury. It’s measured every day in any patient undergoing any sort of health/illness monitoring blood work. It is a COMPLETELY normal cytoplasm component while it is contained within the liver hepatocytes. It is LEAKAGE to the blood stream that we are interested in as a surrogate for hepatic damage. The rats all had terminal blood samples taken. The group could have measured ALT for a few pence in real plasma from this blood. They didn’t. They homogenised liver and measured ALT in the supernatant. They described this as “plasma”. All we can say from Fig 4 is that the liver of stearic acid fed rats has more of ALT within its hepatocytes. ALT is a normal enzyme used for interconverting certain components of the TCA/amino acid metabolism. Who knows why it is increased under stearate feeding, but it's not a marker of hepatocellular damage unless it is being released in to the blood stream... I think we can assume plasma ALT was completely normal. I'd be willing to bet it was measured in a pilot study and failed to pass the pay-dirt test.
The related studies cited in this paper are equally interesting and say nothing about much other than the ingenuity of the researchers. As always, my fascination is about the mindset involved.
Who decided to homogenise liver to get “plasma” ALT? Who decided to bin the histology friendly liver samples?
Why?
Peter
Monday, February 12, 2018
Saturated fat and fatty liver. Payday in Sweden.
DLS posted a link to this paper in the comments on the last post.
Overfeeding Polyunsaturated and Saturated Fat Causes Distinct Effects on Liver and Visceral Fat Accumulation in Humans
It's really fascinating. It's rather the flip side to the rodent study in the post itself. They took reasonably healthy humans and over-fed them muffins based on palm oil or sunflower oil.
The core findings, here from the conclusions:
"The fate of SFA [saturated fat] appears to be ectopic and general fat accumulation, whereas PUFA instead promotes lean tissue in healthy subjects. Given a detrimental role of liver fat and visceral fat in diabetes, the potential of early prevention of ectopic fat and hepatic steatosis by replacing some SFA with PUFA in the diet should be further investigated".
And the most important finding from the results:
"the MRI assessment showed that the SFA group gained more liver fat, total fat, and visceral fat, but less lean tissue compared with subjects in PUFA group (Table 2)".
This is pay dirt. It completely justifies saturated fat avoidance at even modest overeating. As Tom Naughton has commented recently:
Jane Brody And The American Heart Association Bravely Admit They’ve Been Right All Along
Well. I guess we can all just pack up and go home right now.
But, ultimately, you have to try to understand what is going on.
So let's have a think about it. We have two populations of adipocytes in the two study groups. Each is being provided with an excess of fatty acids to store under the influence of insulin. One population is being exposed to palmitic acid. Palmitic acid provides the maximum FADH2 of all FFAs excepting stearic acid. So it predisposes to generating insulin resistance via reverse electron transport (RET). In adipocytes this means that they are less likely to accumulate triglyceride, ie palmitic acid stops you getting fat. It does this by limiting fat storage under peak insulin. My presumption is that, under free feeding situations, this information about the state of adipocytes is transmitted to the brain, either through plasma fatty acids, hormones or via the autonomic nervous system, resulting in a cessation of eating. But there is no cessation of eating allowed in the study. If you don't gain weight you are made to eat more muffins. You have to eat. If the excess fat in the diet is not going in to the adipocytes it is going to end up somewhere else. Liver and visceral fat are good places if you have nowhere else. Sticking it in muscles might well limit the anabolic action of insulin at this site.
The PUFA group are asked to eat more too. The linoleic acid in the muffins allows easy distention of this population of adipocytes (less FADH2 per unit NADH). Insulin acts easily because peak RET is blunted and adipoctes accept more fat. Excess dietary fat ends up in adipocytes, the adipocytes don't care. At 1.6kg weight gain in a young, fit Swede there is insufficient adipocyte distention to raise FFAs in the face of insulin. Eating surplus PUFA appears to be metabolically easier to deal with than eating palmitate beyond acute needs. With sequestration of fatty acids in adipocytes rather than in to muscle we have the possibility for the anabolic effect of insulin actually working at increasing lean muscle mass.
We know that the groups were carefully managed to reach a very tightly controlled target of weight gain. Week by week the number of muffins fed per day was adjusted to give us the desired target gain of 1.6kg in each group. It took, on average, 3.1 muffins per day in each group to achieve this over seven weeks.
What we don't know is what the pattern of weight gain was during the study. Did the PUFA group gain weight easily in the early weeks and need less and less muffins later in the study to avoid excess weight gain, with the risk of overshooting the 1.6kg target?
Did the palmitic acid group show a steady weight gain, almost all of it ending up in ectopic sites because subcutaneous adipocytes didn't want to accept more fat throughout the study?
These are interesting thoughts. It is an interesting paper!
Peter
BTW There are a whole stack more questions regarding the role of fructose in the paper but I think the basics are probably covered in the differential effects of of fatty acids on the electron transport chain.
Overfeeding Polyunsaturated and Saturated Fat Causes Distinct Effects on Liver and Visceral Fat Accumulation in Humans
It's really fascinating. It's rather the flip side to the rodent study in the post itself. They took reasonably healthy humans and over-fed them muffins based on palm oil or sunflower oil.
The core findings, here from the conclusions:
"The fate of SFA [saturated fat] appears to be ectopic and general fat accumulation, whereas PUFA instead promotes lean tissue in healthy subjects. Given a detrimental role of liver fat and visceral fat in diabetes, the potential of early prevention of ectopic fat and hepatic steatosis by replacing some SFA with PUFA in the diet should be further investigated".
And the most important finding from the results:
"the MRI assessment showed that the SFA group gained more liver fat, total fat, and visceral fat, but less lean tissue compared with subjects in PUFA group (Table 2)".
This is pay dirt. It completely justifies saturated fat avoidance at even modest overeating. As Tom Naughton has commented recently:
Jane Brody And The American Heart Association Bravely Admit They’ve Been Right All Along
Well. I guess we can all just pack up and go home right now.
But, ultimately, you have to try to understand what is going on.
So let's have a think about it. We have two populations of adipocytes in the two study groups. Each is being provided with an excess of fatty acids to store under the influence of insulin. One population is being exposed to palmitic acid. Palmitic acid provides the maximum FADH2 of all FFAs excepting stearic acid. So it predisposes to generating insulin resistance via reverse electron transport (RET). In adipocytes this means that they are less likely to accumulate triglyceride, ie palmitic acid stops you getting fat. It does this by limiting fat storage under peak insulin. My presumption is that, under free feeding situations, this information about the state of adipocytes is transmitted to the brain, either through plasma fatty acids, hormones or via the autonomic nervous system, resulting in a cessation of eating. But there is no cessation of eating allowed in the study. If you don't gain weight you are made to eat more muffins. You have to eat. If the excess fat in the diet is not going in to the adipocytes it is going to end up somewhere else. Liver and visceral fat are good places if you have nowhere else. Sticking it in muscles might well limit the anabolic action of insulin at this site.
The PUFA group are asked to eat more too. The linoleic acid in the muffins allows easy distention of this population of adipocytes (less FADH2 per unit NADH). Insulin acts easily because peak RET is blunted and adipoctes accept more fat. Excess dietary fat ends up in adipocytes, the adipocytes don't care. At 1.6kg weight gain in a young, fit Swede there is insufficient adipocyte distention to raise FFAs in the face of insulin. Eating surplus PUFA appears to be metabolically easier to deal with than eating palmitate beyond acute needs. With sequestration of fatty acids in adipocytes rather than in to muscle we have the possibility for the anabolic effect of insulin actually working at increasing lean muscle mass.
We know that the groups were carefully managed to reach a very tightly controlled target of weight gain. Week by week the number of muffins fed per day was adjusted to give us the desired target gain of 1.6kg in each group. It took, on average, 3.1 muffins per day in each group to achieve this over seven weeks.
What we don't know is what the pattern of weight gain was during the study. Did the PUFA group gain weight easily in the early weeks and need less and less muffins later in the study to avoid excess weight gain, with the risk of overshooting the 1.6kg target?
Did the palmitic acid group show a steady weight gain, almost all of it ending up in ectopic sites because subcutaneous adipocytes didn't want to accept more fat throughout the study?
These are interesting thoughts. It is an interesting paper!
Peter
BTW There are a whole stack more questions regarding the role of fructose in the paper but I think the basics are probably covered in the differential effects of of fatty acids on the electron transport chain.
Monday, February 05, 2018
Follow on to Tucker's post on PUFA in rats
Tucker posted an excellent discussion of this paper on his blog. Go read it:
Fat Quality Influences the Obesogenic Effect of High Fat Diets
The basic conclusion is that feeding rats a high fat diet makes them fat. If it is PUFA based, including a generous amount of omega 3 alpha linolenic acid, it will cook their liver (figuratively speaking... in actuallity it converts their liver to being full of peroxidised PUFA, en-route to cirrhosis). I have an anecdote-type post on the problems of being married to a cardiologist if you happen to be alcohol addicted somewhere. I really ought to dig it out and hit post.
So. The problems with the paper:
The rats on the PUFA diet, with the gross fatty livers, were less obese than the lard fed rats, had better lean body mass percentage and much better brown adipose tissue hypertrophy and fat oxidation.
The bottom line: If you want look slim and well muscled in your coffin then a safflower oil diet with a heavy dash of varnish might be a good choice...
How come?
The paper was not looking at insulin levels or insulin signalling so it doesn't provide the data we need to come to any conclusions but it has resonances to the comment Zoran made on the previous post.
The Protons Credo (believe if you so wish!) for the situation:
PUFA, of a carbon chain length which targets them for mitochondrial oxidation, input less FADH2 at mitochondrial electron transporting flavoprotein dehydrogenase (mtETFdh) than do saturated fats or MUFA. This lack of FADH2 input limits the ability to reduce the CoQ couple and facilitates electron flow down the electron transport chain (ETC) and so limits the generation of reverse electron transport through complex I. This damped RET limits the ROS generation (superoxide and H2O2) necessary to initiate insulin signalling under fasting and to limit excessive insulin signalling in the fed state.
So on a whole body basis PUFA maintain insulin sensitivity. Insulin acts, rather well, under PUFA compared to under saturated fat, in the fed state. It works less well in the fasted state.
A fed, insulin sensitive animal will do two things of interest on a medium carbohydrate, generous fat diet. It will utilise glucose easily in muscles to burn calories and it will continue to use glucose in adipocytes to esterify FFAs with glycolysis-derived glycerol, to store fat.
So the Protons thread expects insulin sensitivity to cause fat accumulation because of maintained insulin sensitivity in adipocytes at high levels of insulin signalling. The cost of this insulin sensitivity is obesity.
PUFA = obesity, soybean oil is the best, they used safflower here.
Slight aside: The insulin resistance associated with obesity is nothing to do with insulin per se. It is triggered by the fact that very large adipocytes leak free fatty acids irrespective of insulin levels. At elevated FFA levels more insulin is needed to translocate GLUT4s than at low FFA levels.
Back to the rats.
The lard fed rats are the most obese. The PUFA fed rats the least obese.
The lard fed rats are on about 10% of their calories as PUFA in their diet. They are probably almost as fat as a 10% PUFA diet would like them to be, ie their adipocytes are almost as distended as a 10% PUFA diet dictates. The rats are almost as fat as they need to be. They are doing this on 380kJ per day. Because the rats are only allowed a total of 380kJ of energy per day. Did you pick that up in the methods?
The PUFA fed rats want to be truely, grossly obese, much more so than the lard fed rats do, because they are on somewhere between 50% and 60% of their energy intake as PUFA. But there, in the hopper, is that same old 380kJ per rat per day. It doesn't matter how much your adipocytes are crying out for more fat, how empty they feel, how hungry they tell your brain to feel. There, in the hopper, is 380kJ.
These rats are intensely insulin sensitive because their adipocytes are "empty" compared to how thery would like to be. They are "starving" compared to how they would like to be. Their muscles respond to insulin's anabolic effect and I'd be willing to bet their growth hormone levels are through the roof and IGF-1 through the floor (another post there, GH, IGF-1 and starvation). Insulin is going to be low because any glucose released from the liver is easily utilised in the fed state. In the fasting state insulin fails to act effectively so that, while FFAs may be the same as in the lard fed rats, we know (from Figure 2) that lipids are being oxidised much more rapidly on a 24h basis.
PUFA sensitise adipocytes to insulin. Given the choice the animal will eat until obese and become insulin resistant due to adipocyte distension. Combine PUFA with starvation and insulin sensitivity will be maintained. Or enhanced.
Just the Protons view. Any other explanations welcome.
Peter
Of course people should ask how the action of PUFA compares to the action of metformin. They are superficially similar. That might need more doodles I'm afraid!
Fat Quality Influences the Obesogenic Effect of High Fat Diets
The basic conclusion is that feeding rats a high fat diet makes them fat. If it is PUFA based, including a generous amount of omega 3 alpha linolenic acid, it will cook their liver (figuratively speaking... in actuallity it converts their liver to being full of peroxidised PUFA, en-route to cirrhosis). I have an anecdote-type post on the problems of being married to a cardiologist if you happen to be alcohol addicted somewhere. I really ought to dig it out and hit post.
So. The problems with the paper:
The rats on the PUFA diet, with the gross fatty livers, were less obese than the lard fed rats, had better lean body mass percentage and much better brown adipose tissue hypertrophy and fat oxidation.
The bottom line: If you want look slim and well muscled in your coffin then a safflower oil diet with a heavy dash of varnish might be a good choice...
How come?
The paper was not looking at insulin levels or insulin signalling so it doesn't provide the data we need to come to any conclusions but it has resonances to the comment Zoran made on the previous post.
The Protons Credo (believe if you so wish!) for the situation:
PUFA, of a carbon chain length which targets them for mitochondrial oxidation, input less FADH2 at mitochondrial electron transporting flavoprotein dehydrogenase (mtETFdh) than do saturated fats or MUFA. This lack of FADH2 input limits the ability to reduce the CoQ couple and facilitates electron flow down the electron transport chain (ETC) and so limits the generation of reverse electron transport through complex I. This damped RET limits the ROS generation (superoxide and H2O2) necessary to initiate insulin signalling under fasting and to limit excessive insulin signalling in the fed state.
So on a whole body basis PUFA maintain insulin sensitivity. Insulin acts, rather well, under PUFA compared to under saturated fat, in the fed state. It works less well in the fasted state.
A fed, insulin sensitive animal will do two things of interest on a medium carbohydrate, generous fat diet. It will utilise glucose easily in muscles to burn calories and it will continue to use glucose in adipocytes to esterify FFAs with glycolysis-derived glycerol, to store fat.
So the Protons thread expects insulin sensitivity to cause fat accumulation because of maintained insulin sensitivity in adipocytes at high levels of insulin signalling. The cost of this insulin sensitivity is obesity.
PUFA = obesity, soybean oil is the best, they used safflower here.
Slight aside: The insulin resistance associated with obesity is nothing to do with insulin per se. It is triggered by the fact that very large adipocytes leak free fatty acids irrespective of insulin levels. At elevated FFA levels more insulin is needed to translocate GLUT4s than at low FFA levels.
Back to the rats.
The lard fed rats are the most obese. The PUFA fed rats the least obese.
The lard fed rats are on about 10% of their calories as PUFA in their diet. They are probably almost as fat as a 10% PUFA diet would like them to be, ie their adipocytes are almost as distended as a 10% PUFA diet dictates. The rats are almost as fat as they need to be. They are doing this on 380kJ per day. Because the rats are only allowed a total of 380kJ of energy per day. Did you pick that up in the methods?
The PUFA fed rats want to be truely, grossly obese, much more so than the lard fed rats do, because they are on somewhere between 50% and 60% of their energy intake as PUFA. But there, in the hopper, is that same old 380kJ per rat per day. It doesn't matter how much your adipocytes are crying out for more fat, how empty they feel, how hungry they tell your brain to feel. There, in the hopper, is 380kJ.
These rats are intensely insulin sensitive because their adipocytes are "empty" compared to how thery would like to be. They are "starving" compared to how they would like to be. Their muscles respond to insulin's anabolic effect and I'd be willing to bet their growth hormone levels are through the roof and IGF-1 through the floor (another post there, GH, IGF-1 and starvation). Insulin is going to be low because any glucose released from the liver is easily utilised in the fed state. In the fasting state insulin fails to act effectively so that, while FFAs may be the same as in the lard fed rats, we know (from Figure 2) that lipids are being oxidised much more rapidly on a 24h basis.
PUFA sensitise adipocytes to insulin. Given the choice the animal will eat until obese and become insulin resistant due to adipocyte distension. Combine PUFA with starvation and insulin sensitivity will be maintained. Or enhanced.
Just the Protons view. Any other explanations welcome.
Peter
Of course people should ask how the action of PUFA compares to the action of metformin. They are superficially similar. That might need more doodles I'm afraid!
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